Contents


Background and aims of the project
Web pages and contacts
MEANS Workshops - A Meeting of Minds?
Workshop in Glasgow
Jobs Up for Grads! Anne Hawkins (RSS Centre for Statistical Education)
Email mentoring Neville Davies (University of Nottingham Trent)
Choosing the right sandwich filling Margaret Rangecroft (Sheffield Hallam University)
On being interviewed for the Government Statistical Service Andrew Ledger (National Heritage)
The best kept secret Richard Castle (University of Brighton)
To make you think - Some comments from first round projects
Some comments from employers and employees

Background

The MEANS Project is a two-year project funded by the Department for Education and Employment. It is based at the RSS Centre for Statistical Education in the University of Nottingham and has core partner institutions in the University of Nottingham Trent, the University of Sheffield and Sheffield Hallam University. The Project Director is Dr Anne Hawkins and the Project Manager is Peter Holmes.

It is one of many Discipline Networks in Higher Education which have been set up by the DfEE to promote better co-operation between employers and universities in the content and approach to undergraduate courses. Work on the first of these networks began in April 1995; the Statistics network began its work in April 1996.

These networks are the latest of many initiatives that have been taken in linking education with industry by the Department for Employment over the past 10 years. The thinking behind this latest initiative is that imposed change does not work and that university lecturers are more likely to be influenced by peers in their subject specialism. Although the background to setting up the networks lies in employment considerations, there is a broader view of what constitutes proper education; there is not a narrow view of education being merely training for work. Each discipline network is a network of people from education and employment who are trying to improve undergraduate education in their subject. Each network is trying to build up information about resources that will help to achieve this.

Aims of the Project

The aims of the MEANS Project are to:

a. identify the statistical skills and knowledge which are needed by people whose work includes statistical duties, and by those who work with them;

b. identify examples of good statistical training/education and assessment practice;

c. promote a closer correspondence between training and assessment in higher education and employment needs, based on the findings of a and b;

d. provide a forum for discussion, dissemination and research collaboration, making full use of electronic as well as traditional means of communication;

e. lay foundations for enabling the network to extend into more higher education contexts where statistics is taught.


Web pages and contacts.

Our Web pages are being developed as part of the pages from the RSS Centre for Statistical Education at the University of Nottingham. They are at:

http://www.maths.nott.ac.uk../means.html

We are establishing an electronic network using the mailbase facilities. To register on our mailbase send a one line message of the form join means Annie Boddy to mailbase@mailbase.ac.uk (Replace Annie Boddy with your own name.) The purpose of the network is to facilitate the exchange of views on the subject of the MEANS Project and to encourage greater co-operation between employers, employees and academic institutions to improve teaching, training and asessment in statistics. This covers service courses and in-house courses in statistics as well as specialist undergraduate statistics courses,

If you wish to have your name put on our mailing list, or to get in touch with us for any other reason, then you can email:

Anne Hawkins at ash@maths.nott.ac.uk

or Peter Holmes at peterhomes@ntu.ac.uk.

Our postal address is:

MEANS Project, RSS Centre for Statistical Education

University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD

Tel: 0115 951 4911. Fax: 0115 951 4951


MEANS Workshops - A Meeting of Minds? Peter Holmes (MEANS Project)

Employers, employees and university lecturers at our three workshops - in Nottingham, Woking and London - have had animated discussions on matching education and assessment with employment needs. Full reports can be found on our Web pages. Here is a brief outline of some of the main points.

Employers - assessing their needs

The employers were generally more interested in attitudes and personal skills than in specific technical competence. A good grounding in basic statistics was rated higher than deep theory. Companies differed greatly, from those who provide training to those who do not; from those who have specific expectations about the statistical activities of their employees to those where senior and middle management still need to be convinced of the usefulness of statistics.

A common requirement of employees is that they should demonstrate good communication skills - both oral and written. Statisticians often need to work in a team with non-statisticians and may also have to communicate in non-technical language to clients. Interactions of this sort require a maturity of outlook and the ability to ask intelligent questions and to express complex ideas simply.

Employers welcome courses with more practical orientations and placement years (in universities that have them) were felt to be extremely beneficial. They are generally disappointed at the lack of practicality in new recruits, something that shows up particularly at interview. In general employers are critical of sanitised and over-theoretical courses.

Employees - reflecting on their experience

The employees were encouraged to compare the needs of their current jobs with their experience as university undergraduates. Those who had had a placement year said that it had been very useful. They also appreciated courses which were genuinely practical. There was some disappointment with pseudo-practical courses.

Some felt that the university first course had not convinced them of the usefulness of statistics or given them a sufficiently global overview. For some, this had come on MSc courses.

Many recalled being spoon fed on their own courses and being assessed for their ability to recall theory rather than exercise their statistical skills and understanding. However several appreciated the depth of their courses for helping them gain important perspectives on their present work.

Very few had learned how to write reports as part of their statistics course In fact, some had had to produce reports but had not been taught how. Some had acquired the necessary skills in other subjects such as Economics or Management Science. All would have welcomed something more positive by way of help to develop their communication and consultancy skills.

Most recent graduates found that they were having to apply their statistics in new areas, and there is a clear need to learn on the job. Some had needed to learn how to learn, a skill that they had not acquired at university.

University Lecturers - responding to the needs

Most of the university lecturers were aware of the points being made by the employers and employees, and were trying to respond. They were, however, very aware of constraints on their freedom to act in this way - some of which are given below.

Outside specific practical data-handling courses and projects, any practical work has to be geared to the specific topic of the course (e.g. multivariate methods, time series).

Teaching practical and consultancy skills is very labour intensive - unless students can do some self-assessment or research students/staff can be involved in the process. One department insists on groups of three students working round a computer to encourage discussion and hence to improve students' teamwork and communication skills. First year service courses may be too early as they precede any perceived needs by the students. However, such courses are often constrained in time and content by the other departments' requirements for later years.

Some novel developments were described - see the articles by Neville Davies and Richard Castle in this newsletter. Some universities were using packages such as Maple and Derive to enable mathematically weaker students to cope. The lecturers and the employees had conflicting views on students' attitudes. The lecturers detected a reluctance by students to choose practical modules, or courses which incorporated the development of personal interactive skills. They saw a trend towards students choosing 'easier' modules to get a degree. The employees were less convinced, asking could the lecturers do more to make their courses interesting and show that they were important.

Constraints

1. Most specialist statistics courses are associated with mathematics degrees. Mathematics courses are largely linear and this expectation carries over into statistics courses, sometimes where it is not appropriate.

2. Lack of mathematical ability in students means that some do not appreciate mathematical explanations. This is not completely solved by using symbolic manipulation packages.

3. Pressure of time. Practical work and computer data analysis can be time consuming. Students may choose to take perceived easier options. This is particularly the case in modular degrees.

4. Size of classes. It is more difficult to run practical and group sessions with large classes. One option is to lecture to large classes and have smaller groups in follow-on seminars.

5. Examinations and assessment. It is much more time-consuming to mark a set of reports on practical projects than to mark the same number of examination papers. One possibility is to give students data to analyse before they come into an examination. Another is to have students using computers and real data in their examinations.

What can MEANS do?

Encourage co-operation.

Put employers and universities in contact with each other.

Solicit data, open-ended problems and case studies from companies and government sources for use in undergraduate teaching.

Find out how software packages (statistical such as Minitab, SAS, SPSS as well as symbolic such as Maple, Mathematica and Derive) are being integrated into undergraduate courses.

Identify, and circulate information on, innovative assessment procedures.

Maintain contact lists so that educationists and employers can communicate with each other.

Keep up a dialogue with those who left university some time ago.

Improve employment prospects of statistics graduates by encouraging universities to develop numerate skills.

Maintain a directory of contacts in industry/business/commerce/government who have an interest in, or experience of, ways of matching education, assessment and employment needs.

Have Web pages of case studies of effective approaches.

Produce a list of people from industry willing to give lectures/courses.

Find academics willing to spend time in industry.


Workshop in Glasgow - 20 February 1997

John McColl at the University of Glasgow is organising our next MEANS Workshop. It will be held on Thursday 20 February in the Department of Statistics from 10.00 am to 4.00 pm.

The aim of this workshop is:
To bring together academic teachers of undergraduate statistics with employers of graduates who have to use statistics and some of these graduates to: explore the expectations and experiences of the different groups; identify any areas of mismatch; explore ways in which any mismatch is being/could be met; begin to develop case studies to give insight into the nature of the mismatch problems that could themselves be used for possible future teaching/training.

If you wish to come to this workshop please let John McColl know. If you know of other people who we can invite please also let us know. We are particularly keen to get contributions from a wide range of employers and young graduates recently started in employment. We would also like contributions from those who have been involved in any type of employment/education co-operative venture.

For further information contact John at John@stats.gla.ac.uk , telephone 0141 330 4749. The mail address is John McColl, Department of Statistics, University of Glasgow, Mathematics Building, University Gardens, Glasgow, G12 8QW


Jobs Up for Grads! Anne Hawkins (RSS Centre for Statistical Education)

One way of finding out about what employers want is to look at what they say they want. To this end, the MEANS project team has been collecting job advertisements that have appeared on electronic bulletin boards, in newspapers and in journals. Clearly, it is not sufficient to rely merely on the wording of initial advertisements, because these vary considerably in the amount of detail given. Some, but not all, employers provide further particulars for potential applicants. These might take the form of a standard information pack that can be downloaded from a web-site, or obtained through a personnel officer or some other administrator. The amount and type of information available to applicants is, however, particularly difficult to assess if, as is a common practice, the advertiser invites informal enquiries by phone or e-mail. It is, of course, not entirely clear who benefits more from this - the employer or the prospective employee - or for that matter when an 'informal enquiry' ceases to be such and becomes part of the interview process.

Because of the inconsistent approaches observed, a number of the advertisers were asked to elaborate on their initial advertisements. It is perhaps of note that a number of those followed up did not feel that they had anything more to add. This was sometimes the case even when the original advertisement was very vague and lacking in specific detail.

It was fairly obvious that some employers were reluctant to specify their requirements in advance. Sometimes this was because they had not really thought them through. On other occasions it was more a case that the employers had some idea 'what they did not want' but otherwise were prepared to 'see what came out of the woodwork'. In the best dictates of occupational psychology, this rather haphazard way of recruiting employees can not be considered satisfactory or desirable.

At the other extreme, there are prospective employers who provide applicants with large information packs. This is presumably in the expectation that, before attending for interview, candidates will acquire an in-depth knowledge of the structure and organisation into which they hoped to be accepted. Other employers have systematic and extensive evaluation procedures that include posing candidates practical problems similar to those that might be encountered later in the work-place. Sometimes, such problems are posed at the interview. However, some employers require candidates to prepare suggested solutions prior to attending for interview, or even to submit their solutions in advance of the short-list being drawn up.

Our database now holds more than 200 job advertisements, classified by educational and experiential pre-requisites, by the type of duties that would be expected of the successful applicant, and by any personal qualities or skills deemed necessary by the advertisement. Although the data collection will continue, in order to span any seasonal variations, interim analyses and reports will be posted on the MEANS web-site, and a final report will appear in the next edition of this newsletter. To date, the bias has been towards collecting data about advertisements for posts that explicitly mention statistical duties as part of the job description. The next phase of this investigation will be to consider the wording of advertisements for jobs where the incumbent will clearly be required to undertake work of a statistical nature even though the advertisement does not make this explicit. Market research posts could be one example of this.

Information has also been gathered about the sort of job requirements that pertain for more highly qualified, or more experienced, applicants. The rationale for including this is that such information may provide insights into the upper limits of expectation that employers have of recent graduates.

Not all recent graduates move directly into 'employment', but instead enrol on courses leading to higher qualifications, although sometimes such post-graduate studies are undertaken as part of research assistant posts or the like. Attempts have therefore been made to discover whether academic 'employers' or supervisors are satisfied with the levels of knowledge, skills and understanding with which their potential recruits (recent graduates) present. This is an area where it is relatively difficult to obtain information. Firstly, the advertisements for such posts generally carry little explicit information, each being assumed (not necessarily correctly) to be one of a considerable number of similar studentships. Secondly, recruitment is often carried out on the basis of one academic personally recommending one of his or her current cohort of students to a colleague who has secured funding for a particular post. The 'selection' of a student is then made from a known source of undergraduate training that is presumably acceptable to the 'employer'. In any event, there is a natural reluctance on the part of academics to question the level of undergraduate preparation, when they themselves are not only responsible for post-graduate supervision but also for under-graduate training. Issues related to 'pots calling kettles _.' or 'motes and beams' may be influential factors in this context. Perhaps, however, this type of recruitment of a 'would-be specialist' for a 'specialised position' simply tends to breed a certain air of complacency on the part of the educator or supplier of the graduate, and the 'employer' or consumer. Some interesting insights have been gained from this part of the study, albeit that these are often of a more anecdotal kind.

One of the things that is emerging from the investigation, which complements information gleaned from MEANS seminars and other avenues of enquiry undertaken by the project team, is a perception of the degree to which employers are willing, or expect, to provide in-house training for their recent graduates. Another issue that is receiving attention is the variability in the ways in which employers state what they are looking for. This may indicate that in some cases job advertisements are a 'voice' that is being under-exploited when it comes to the employers telling the educators (and their prospective employees) what they require.


Email mentoring Neville Davies (Nottingham Trent University)

The original idea of using email mentors came from Janice Derr, Statistical Consulting Director, Pennsylvania State University, USA. It has also been implemented during 1996 by Dr Ian Gordon of The University of Melbourne, Australia. Nottingham Trent University has made email mentoring part of the second level course Communicating Statistics in semester 1, academic year 1996/1997. Course notes are written in the html language, and management of the students' activities is done entirely from my web pages. Details, including other activities that are part of the Communicating Statistics course, can be found at the url

http://www.maths.ntu.ac.uk/nd/www/communicating/lectures.html

This shows the opening screen, giving access to the notes, url links and course management details. Standard html files, with hot-word dynamic links to related pages, can be accessed from this web page.

The idea behind email mentoring is that students can make contact with professional statisticians who have previously agreed to allocate some time to the task. The only cost for such professionals should be the time taken to carry out the communication. The students are asked to find out the kinds of statistical activities that their mentors get involved in, including formal or informal consulting, special presentations and generally communicating the subject to others. The students are warned not to ask trivial or irrelevant questions and are encouraged to keep regular contact. The activity is assessed from a report that the students are asked to write up, paying particular attention to the way they relate how the email mentors communicate the subject to others.

I have a pool of around 20 email mentors from within the UK, USA and Australia and pairs of students are allocated to each mentor. I have tried to match student interests with the main work of each mentor. For example, several students on the course are studying for a degree in Business and Quality Management, and their email mentors are in industry and/or work in the area of quality management. The students were asked to make initial contact early in the semester, to give plenty of time to allow for electronic difficulties and so forth.

The html language allows direct emailing to hot-linked names, and the students have access to a web page that lists all the mentors and their allocated students. The following section gives verbatim the web page that contains the guidelines that I have used for the questions the students should ask.

Guideline questions to ask email mentors

This assignment requires you to make contact with a statistical email mentor. These people are all practising statisticians, and your task is to find out about their work, and write a brief report about it (3-4 pages). You might ask them about:

the nature of his/her work;

communication with clients;

how the statistician goes about problem-solving;

problems the statistician faces at work;

typical tasks, how the week is filled in;

the type and amount of non-statistical work done;

pluses, minuses of the job;

views the statistician may have about the nature of statistical consulting;

technical issues;

anything else thought to be relevant.

This list is intended as a loose guide only and you can raise any issue you like. The mentors have kindly agreed to do this, because they see its educational value. But they are all busy people, and you should not pressure them. They are not expected to send you more than two brief messages per week. How you structure your enquiries is up to you, but you should obviously not simply send them the above list and wait for responses. You should introduce yourself, explain your experience in statistics so far, and take it from there. Some of the mentors may be willing to meet you in person; you may request that, but please be understanding if they cannot. The mentors will not be able to discuss confidential matters. The write-up should be a synthesis of what you have found out, based on the total email correspondence. You should not simply cut and paste their answers into a document. You may quote them, but only briefly and only if it is particularly appropriate. You should regard the assignment as an exercise in report writing as much as anything else. The mentors will receive a copy of your assignment.

Measuring success

It is very early days to be able to make any objective assessment of the success or otherwise of this project. However, several pairs of the students have been visibly enthused by the interest their mentors have taken in their studies. The students on the BA Quality Management have been particularly keen on the use of their email mentor. They are hoping that the connection with Australia may even provide them with job opportunities! I intend to make available on the world wide web all the reports that the students write up. Naturally I shall send a copy of the report to the mentors and ask their permission before making the information publicly available on the internet.

My own feeling is that this part of the course will provide valuable experience for the students in the practice of communicating with professional statisticians. Hopefully this will help the students themselves with the less than easy job of communicating statistics


Choosing the right sandwich filling Margaret and Peter Rangecroft (Sheffield Hallam University)

Sheffield Hallam University has a long tradition of offering sandwich courses, that is courses which incorporate a substantial period in industry. What follows is a description of how this course component is implemented in the degree programme in Management Sciences, one of several such programmes in the School of Computing and Management Sciences.

This programme consists of three named degrees:

Applied Statistics;

Business Systems Modelling;

Computing and Management Sciences

Each of these is a four year course, the third year of which is spent in paid employment, known as 'the placement year'.

It is felt that this placement year is a vital part of the students' education, providing them with valuable work experience. In addition to workplace skills such as time-keeping, working as part of a team, keeping to deadlines and communicating effectively, they begin to get a feel for practice as well as theory. We also find that when they return for their final year in college they are not only better able to see applications of what they are studying but are much more mature. All these factors contribute to their employability at the end of the course, which is probably one of the reasons why the School has such an enviable employment record.

The students are placed in a wide variety of establishments, both in the UK and abroad. These include:

The pharmaceutical industry Financial services
The utilities (gas, electricity, water) Manufacturing
Software houses The civil service
The armed forces and police Research and consultancy
Retailing

Within these companies the students' roles are many and varied. They might include such jobs as collecting and analysing data, mathematical and statistical modelling, programming (SAS, C++, etc.), risk analysis, project management, logistics, design and analysis of clinical data, to name but a few. The variety and depth of experience is determined by the employer, as is the degree of supervision they provide.

So what are the benefits for the employer? Many employers come back to us year after year to recruit our students. They often see the placement year as an extended interview and, if a student is found to be suitable, may offer her a permanent job on graduation. In addition, they hope that the student will bring fresh ideas. For small companies in particular, short term contracts such as these offer a great deal of flexibility. The fact that the rate of pay for a placement student is generally lower than the graduate equivalent is an added inducement. For the student, however, earning a salary instead of living off a grant is riches indeed. Many take this opportunity to try to become solvent!

Placing the students in suitable employment is the job of the placement unit, a team of academics and administrators with special responsibility in this area. In addition they, with the help of other academic members of staff, supervise and support students during their placement year. This involves at least two visits to the student's workplace to meet with both the student and her line manager, once early in the placement year and again towards the end.

With increasing competition for employment, we have found it advantageous to spend time and effort in preparing the students for placement. During their first year in college they will have learnt the rudiments of CV writing and this is followed up early in the second year by further work on CV's and interview technique. The process of applying for, and getting, a placement is ongoing throughout the second year. The effort invested in this process has to date paid off, with all students finding a placement. However, we are not complacent. Although most companies come back each year for placement students, the increase in numbers of students and the desire to widen the student experience mean that we are constantly seeking new placements. So, if you think that you could offer one of our enthusiastic and able students a placement with your company give us a ring on 0114 2533149 and we will do our best to help you.


Being interviewed for the Government Statistical Service Andrew Ledger (National Heritage)

The Government always needs statisticians - you can do that if you can't decide on anything else". This was the worldly advice which I was given while in my first year at University by a wise final year student.

Having finished with education in 1991 - studying a BSc in Mathematics, Operational Research, Statistics and Economics followed, by an MSc in Econometrics and Mathematical Ecomomics, I ended up thinking about a career towards the end of 1992. Working for the Civil Service did hold some kind of appeal for me as I started to look for jobs and adding to that the fact that in my academic area (mostly statistics and economics) the Government seemed to be the largest recruiter - the decision was made. I applied for the entry scheme in October 1992, having filled out an application form which was obviously designed to test dedication at an early stage. The recruiting process meant that, after this initial hurdle, those successful were invited to the dreaded Civil Service Selection Board (CSSB) in February/March 1993.

The CSSB consists of a day and a half of interviews, tests and group exercises. Having recently been a guinea pig for some of last year's sections, I can confirm that they are clearly carefully thought out. However, many of the exercises are highly artificial - e.g. put five strangers together and get them to discuss a topic which they have probably never even thought about before, while being scrutinised by a panel of three interviewers. Despite being artificial, this kind of exercise can help to tell a lot about people - some people naturally assume control (which may or may not be a good thing), while others meekly wait for their turn to make a point, sometimes a key point which others have completely missed.

The individual tests were very wide ranging - from rearranging bits of a sentence to make sense, or spotting the last in a sequence of dominoes, right through to having to make recommendations on a proposed statistical survey. Most of these are tightly time constrained such that candidates can never fully complete and check everything; a good thing for forcing people to make value judgements, but in my view suffering from the same problem as some exams - he who writes quickest has an advantage.

The parts of CSSB which everyone was dreading were the interviews - one classed as statistical, the other as general. For me, I decided that honesty was the best policy and began my statistical interview by confessing that the statistics which I had studied (mainly in 1989-ish) was mostly just a distant memory. This turned out to be a good move, since I was asked just very general questions whereas those who went along trying to prove they knew lots of technical statistics were given a hard time. Then, I did wonder whether this might just result in a large black cross against my name, but presumably having the right qualifications counts for something, and, as long as the interview confirms that the candidate does have the background understanding which the degrees imply, then that is fine.

My impression was that the final, general, interview is the most important part of the whole process. I find it hard to believe that a series of artificial exercises and disjointed tests can tell as much about the suitability of a candidate as an hour long chat with them. This interview covers general discussions about topical issues (including one with a statistical theme) and tests the key abilities to think quickly, see both sides of an issue and follow lines of argument to a logical conclusion. Thus, I ended up discussing whether advertising for smoking should be banned, whether parents should be able to choose the sex of their babies, and many other genuinely interesting subjects.

My overall conclusion from the CSSB was that statistical knowledge was not perceived as being all that important and common sense appeared to be much more valued. I imagine that the reason for this is basically that the entry requirements already ensure that candidates are, if not statistical experts, at least highly numerate. I would also add that the posts which I have subsequently held within the Government Statistical Service have suggested that that is the right judgement. At times I have lacked the statistical knowledge which people would expect of somebody aiming to become a statistician - but these times are rare. It is much more common to have to work out what is going on with some figures - where do they come from and roughly what do they mean is often more important than elaborate detail.

I should finish by giving a reassurance that the GSS is not just something which people should join in the absence of alternatives - it offers a uniquely diverse range of jobs and the chance to have a say in the areas in which you want to work. I am grateful for my third year friend's advice because I think it probably did stick with me at the back of my mind, but a GSS career is certainly more than a default option.


The best kept secret Richard Castle (University of Brighton)

The Teaching Company Scheme (TCS) seems to be one of the best kept secrets. Outside university engineering departments, few academics have heard of it or appreciate the benefits and opportunities it offers; yet it has been in existence for 20 years.

The TCS is a Government-sponsored scheme which actively encourages partnerships between universities and businesses which will strengthen the competitiveness and wealth creation in the UK. The scheme works by supporting two year projects designed to realise a company's aims. Traditionally, many of the projects have been based on engineering problems, but the scheme is not limited to such projects. There are many oportunities for statisticians to be involved in projects such as quality assurance or pattern recognition.

A company must identify a development which is strategically important to their future, which requires skills that are currently unavailable within the company. They would then contact a university department which can offer the necessary skills. Together they would draw up and submit a proposal to the Government. Successful applicants can then appoint a high calibre graduate (teaching company associate) to work full time in the company who will be supervised by industrialists within the company and academics. An initial two-year scheme is funded through a budget worth £65000 for each associate employed. Small companies attract 70% funding from the Government, leaving the company to find pay the remainder (less than £10000 per year). The funding includes monies to pay for the skills of an academic on a consultancy basis (25 days per year).

The scheme is generally considered an advantage to all the parties involved. Naturally, the company acquire new skills at a greatly subsidised rate. The associate benefits from working on a high profile project, and has a special training allowance included in the budget. Furthermore many associates progress within the company after the project has ended. The academic benefits by learning to apply his skills on real and original projects. The Government considers the TCS a success because it generally leads to increased profits and often to increased employment.

At present, I am the academic supervisor for a Teaching Company project at Drallim Industries in Bexhill. The company is developing an instrument for monitoring pneumatic machinery which can predict machine wear before there is catastrophic failure. Naturally, this instrument generates large amounts of data, and pattern recognition techniques are used to monitor the machinery. This requires both mathematical and statistical skills which, prior to the TCS, the company did not have in-house. The Teaching Company scheme is proving an excellent means for acquiring the necessary skills.


To make you think. Peter Holmes (MEANS Project)

The MEANS Project is only one of many Discipline Networks on Higher Education. Some started a year earlier than ours and the DfEE published a paper on Issues from Round 1. Here are some quotations -what do you think?

Students, and sometimes staff, are increasingly being driven by the need to obtain paper qualifications. ... The development of strategic, rather than deep, approaches to learning, militates against the objectives which we share ....

Much innovation is seen as an additional burden on top of an excessive teaching load. Sometimes the rational solution is less teaching and more guidance or assessment, but often this is beyond the control of the individual academic, and seen as inappropriate by one's peers.

At times the mismatch between assessment processes and objectives is striking: graduates enter the world of work on the basis of a qualification awarded largely on the ability to write essays on unseen questions: a task almost no one needs to do in the workplace. However, alternatives - self assessment, group assessment, project reports etc are rarely used because they are seen as unreliable or unduly time consuming. To sacrifice validity in the interests of reliability can hardly be commended, but is the basis of much practice.

Academic journals are a major influence on academics' values and ideas, but it is clear that many are very reluctant to devote space to pedagogical issues.

Do you agree or disagree?

If you agree what can be done?

Write to us at the office in the RSS Centre for Statistical Education in the University of Nottingham

or

join our electronic mailing list and send your message to means@mailbase.ac.uk

or

email us at: peterhomes@ntu.ac.uk.

To see some of the discussion on the mailbase discussion list, check out the archive.


Some comments from employers and employees

At the present stage of the project we have seen only a few employers and they have been mostly from industry - not from business, commerce or government agencies. here are some of the comments we have received:

Planning, design of experiments and correctly interpreting data are important skills.

Employees need to know how to use statistics in improving quality.

They need to be able to communicate with non-statisticians.

The need an appreciation of how research, scientific and in statistical methods, is done.

They need a good perspective on the interplay between data and model.

(On introductory courses for biologists). They are often taught before the practical importance of statistics can be appreciated ... by the time a scientist embarks on a research career much of this reluctantly learned and partly understood material is forgotten.

Students do not help each other, they do not exchange opinions about what they are doing. Each works in a nice isolated cell. They only care about meeting their own deadlines and scoring the best marks (i.e. competition). They are not used to working as a team, to accepting responsibility, to working to a deadline. They often suffer a general lack of communication skills. They are not prepared to interact with non-statisticians.

Statisticians need to work together in teams.

As with all generalities there will always be exceptions and some of the above comments may seem overstated. Nevertheless these comments have many implications not only for our current undergraduate courses but also for the way we assess the students on them.

Here are some comments from employees.

These employees come from the same companies as the employers quoted above.

My undergraduate course was very dry. I was not helped to establish a problem as a statistical problem; I was taught to solve statistical problems.

The undergraduate course should give students problems to solve and fit in a real environment.

I needed to learn how to communicate "This is what statistics can do for you".

Exams are too much on regurgitation. We must assess "Can they do it?".

There was no consideration of ill-defined problems or development of listening skills.

I needed help to learn how to think round a problem.

' A good sound theoretical background is important.

I would have found it helpful to have been exposed to practical problems.

I had a surprise when I started as a statistical consultant. I knew how to do an ANOVA, but I didn't know I didn't understand the ideas behind it until I had to explain to clients.

The biggest problem I have had is in learning how to explain statistics to both statisticians and non-statisticians, so more interaction in a course would be helpful.


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