| Background and aims of the project | ||
| Web pages and contacts | ||
| MEANS Workshops - A Meeting of Minds? | ||
| Workshop in Glasgow | ||
| Jobs Up for Grads! | Anne Hawkins (RSS Centre for Statistical Education) | |
| Email mentoring | Neville Davies (University of Nottingham Trent) | |
| Choosing the right sandwich filling | Margaret Rangecroft (Sheffield Hallam University) | |
| On being interviewed for the Government Statistical Service | Andrew Ledger (National Heritage) | |
| The best kept secret | Richard Castle (University of Brighton) | |
| To make you think - Some comments from first round projects | ||
| Some comments from employers and
employees |
The aims of the MEANS Project are to:
b. identify examples of good statistical training/education and assessment practice;
http://www.maths.nott.ac.uk../means.html
We are establishing an electronic network using the mailbase facilities. To register on our mailbase send a one line message of the form join means Annie Boddy to mailbase@mailbase.ac.uk (Replace Annie Boddy with your own name.) The purpose of the network is to facilitate the exchange of views on the subject of the MEANS Project and to encourage greater co-operation between employers, employees and academic institutions to improve teaching, training and asessment in statistics. This covers service courses and in-house courses in statistics as well as specialist undergraduate statistics courses,
If you wish to have your name put on our mailing list, or to get in touch with us for any other reason, then you can email:
Anne Hawkins at ash@maths.nott.ac.uk
or Peter Holmes at peterhomes@ntu.ac.uk.
Our postal address is:
MEANS Project, RSS Centre for Statistical Education
University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD
Tel: 0115 951 4911. Fax: 0115 951 4951
MEANS Workshops - A Meeting of Minds? Peter Holmes (MEANS Project)
Employers - assessing their needs
Employees - reflecting on their experience
University Lecturers - responding to the needs
Put employers and universities in contact with each other.
Identify, and circulate information on, innovative assessment procedures.
Maintain contact lists so that educationists and employers can communicate with each other.
Keep up a dialogue with those who left university some time ago.
Have Web pages of case studies of effective approaches.
Produce a list of people from industry willing to give lectures/courses.
Find academics willing to spend time in industry.
Workshop
in Glasgow - 20 February 1997
For further information contact John at John@stats.gla.ac.uk , telephone 0141 330 4749. The mail address is John McColl, Department of Statistics, University of Glasgow, Mathematics Building, University Gardens, Glasgow, G12 8QW
Jobs
Up for Grads! Anne
Hawkins (RSS Centre for
Statistical Education)
One way of finding out about what employers want is to look at what they say they want. To this end, the MEANS project team has been collecting job advertisements that have appeared on electronic bulletin boards, in newspapers and in journals. Clearly, it is not sufficient to rely merely on the wording of initial advertisements, because these vary considerably in the amount of detail given. Some, but not all, employers provide further particulars for potential applicants. These might take the form of a standard information pack that can be downloaded from a web-site, or obtained through a personnel officer or some other administrator. The amount and type of information available to applicants is, however, particularly difficult to assess if, as is a common practice, the advertiser invites informal enquiries by phone or e-mail. It is, of course, not entirely clear who benefits more from this - the employer or the prospective employee - or for that matter when an 'informal enquiry' ceases to be such and becomes part of the interview process.
Because of the inconsistent approaches observed, a number of the advertisers were asked to elaborate on their initial advertisements. It is perhaps of note that a number of those followed up did not feel that they had anything more to add. This was sometimes the case even when the original advertisement was very vague and lacking in specific detail.
It was fairly obvious that some employers were reluctant to specify their requirements in advance. Sometimes this was because they had not really thought them through. On other occasions it was more a case that the employers had some idea 'what they did not want' but otherwise were prepared to 'see what came out of the woodwork'. In the best dictates of occupational psychology, this rather haphazard way of recruiting employees can not be considered satisfactory or desirable.
At the other extreme, there are prospective employers who provide applicants with large information packs. This is presumably in the expectation that, before attending for interview, candidates will acquire an in-depth knowledge of the structure and organisation into which they hoped to be accepted. Other employers have systematic and extensive evaluation procedures that include posing candidates practical problems similar to those that might be encountered later in the work-place. Sometimes, such problems are posed at the interview. However, some employers require candidates to prepare suggested solutions prior to attending for interview, or even to submit their solutions in advance of the short-list being drawn up.
Our database now holds more than 200 job advertisements, classified by educational and experiential pre-requisites, by the type of duties that would be expected of the successful applicant, and by any personal qualities or skills deemed necessary by the advertisement. Although the data collection will continue, in order to span any seasonal variations, interim analyses and reports will be posted on the MEANS web-site, and a final report will appear in the next edition of this newsletter. To date, the bias has been towards collecting data about advertisements for posts that explicitly mention statistical duties as part of the job description. The next phase of this investigation will be to consider the wording of advertisements for jobs where the incumbent will clearly be required to undertake work of a statistical nature even though the advertisement does not make this explicit. Market research posts could be one example of this.
Information has also been gathered about the sort of job requirements that pertain for more highly qualified, or more experienced, applicants. The rationale for including this is that such information may provide insights into the upper limits of expectation that employers have of recent graduates.
Not all recent graduates move directly into 'employment', but instead enrol on courses leading to higher qualifications, although sometimes such post-graduate studies are undertaken as part of research assistant posts or the like. Attempts have therefore been made to discover whether academic 'employers' or supervisors are satisfied with the levels of knowledge, skills and understanding with which their potential recruits (recent graduates) present. This is an area where it is relatively difficult to obtain information. Firstly, the advertisements for such posts generally carry little explicit information, each being assumed (not necessarily correctly) to be one of a considerable number of similar studentships. Secondly, recruitment is often carried out on the basis of one academic personally recommending one of his or her current cohort of students to a colleague who has secured funding for a particular post. The 'selection' of a student is then made from a known source of undergraduate training that is presumably acceptable to the 'employer'. In any event, there is a natural reluctance on the part of academics to question the level of undergraduate preparation, when they themselves are not only responsible for post-graduate supervision but also for under-graduate training. Issues related to 'pots calling kettles _.' or 'motes and beams' may be influential factors in this context. Perhaps, however, this type of recruitment of a 'would-be specialist' for a 'specialised position' simply tends to breed a certain air of complacency on the part of the educator or supplier of the graduate, and the 'employer' or consumer. Some interesting insights have been gained from this part of the study, albeit that these are often of a more anecdotal kind.
One of the things that is emerging from the investigation, which complements information gleaned from MEANS seminars and other avenues of enquiry undertaken by the project team, is a perception of the degree to which employers are willing, or expect, to provide in-house training for their recent graduates. Another issue that is receiving attention is the variability in the ways in which employers state what they are looking for. This may indicate that in some cases job advertisements are a 'voice' that is being under-exploited when it comes to the employers telling the educators (and their prospective employees) what they require.
Email
mentoring Neville Davies (Nottingham Trent University)
The original idea of using email mentors came from Janice Derr, Statistical Consulting Director, Pennsylvania State University, USA. It has also been implemented during 1996 by Dr Ian Gordon of The University of Melbourne, Australia. Nottingham Trent University has made email mentoring part of the second level course Communicating Statistics in semester 1, academic year 1996/1997. Course notes are written in the html language, and management of the students' activities is done entirely from my web pages. Details, including other activities that are part of the Communicating Statistics course, can be found at the url
http://www.maths.ntu.ac.uk/nd/www/communicating/lectures.html
This shows the opening screen, giving access to the notes, url links and course management details. Standard html files, with hot-word dynamic links to related pages, can be accessed from this web page.
The idea behind email mentoring is that students can make contact with professional statisticians who have previously agreed to allocate some time to the task. The only cost for such professionals should be the time taken to carry out the communication. The students are asked to find out the kinds of statistical activities that their mentors get involved in, including formal or informal consulting, special presentations and generally communicating the subject to others. The students are warned not to ask trivial or irrelevant questions and are encouraged to keep regular contact. The activity is assessed from a report that the students are asked to write up, paying particular attention to the way they relate how the email mentors communicate the subject to others.
I have a pool of around 20 email mentors from within the UK, USA and Australia and pairs of students are allocated to each mentor. I have tried to match student interests with the main work of each mentor. For example, several students on the course are studying for a degree in Business and Quality Management, and their email mentors are in industry and/or work in the area of quality management. The students were asked to make initial contact early in the semester, to give plenty of time to allow for electronic difficulties and so forth.
The html language allows direct emailing to hot-linked names, and the students have access to a web page that lists all the mentors and their allocated students. The following section gives verbatim the web page that contains the guidelines that I have used for the questions the students should ask.
Guideline questions to ask email mentors
This assignment requires you to make contact with a statistical email mentor. These people are all practising statisticians, and your task is to find out about their work, and write a brief report about it (3-4 pages). You might ask them about:
the nature of his/her work;
communication with clients;
how the statistician goes about problem-solving;
problems the statistician faces at work;
typical tasks, how the week is filled in;
the type and amount of non-statistical work done;
pluses, minuses of the job;
views the statistician may have about the nature of statistical consulting;
technical issues;
anything else thought to be relevant.
This list is intended as a loose guide only and you can raise
any issue you like. The mentors have kindly agreed to do this,
because they see its educational value. But they are all busy
people, and you should not pressure them. They are not expected
to send you more than two brief messages per week. How you
structure your enquiries is up to you, but you should obviously
not simply send them the above list and wait for responses. You
should introduce yourself, explain your experience in statistics
so far, and take it from there. Some of the mentors may be
willing to meet you in person; you may request that, but please
be understanding if they cannot. The mentors will not be able to
discuss confidential matters. The write-up should be a synthesis
of what you have found out, based on the total email
correspondence. You should not simply cut and paste their answers
into a document. You may quote them, but only briefly and only if
it is particularly appropriate. You should regard the assignment
as an exercise in report writing as much as anything else. The
mentors will receive a copy of your assignment.
Measuring success
It is very early days to be able to make any objective
assessment of the success or otherwise of this project. However,
several pairs of the students have been visibly enthused by the
interest their mentors have taken in their studies. The students
on the BA Quality Management have been particularly keen on the
use of their email mentor. They are hoping that the connection
with Australia may even provide them with job opportunities! I
intend to make available on the world wide web all the reports
that the students write up. Naturally I shall send a copy of the
report to the mentors and ask their permission before making the
information publicly available on the internet.
My own feeling is that this part of the course will provide
valuable experience for the students in the practice of
communicating with professional statisticians. Hopefully this
will help the students themselves with the less than easy job of
communicating statistics
Choosing the right sandwich filling Margaret and Peter Rangecroft (Sheffield Hallam University)
Sheffield Hallam University has a long tradition of offering sandwich courses, that is courses which incorporate a substantial period in industry. What follows is a description of how this course component is implemented in the degree programme in Management Sciences, one of several such programmes in the School of Computing and Management Sciences.
This programme consists of three named degrees:
Applied Statistics;
Business Systems Modelling;
Computing and Management Sciences
Each of these is a four year course, the third year of which is spent in paid employment, known as 'the placement year'.
It is felt that this placement year is a vital part of the students' education, providing them with valuable work experience. In addition to workplace skills such as time-keeping, working as part of a team, keeping to deadlines and communicating effectively, they begin to get a feel for practice as well as theory. We also find that when they return for their final year in college they are not only better able to see applications of what they are studying but are much more mature. All these factors contribute to their employability at the end of the course, which is probably one of the reasons why the School has such an enviable employment record.
The students are placed in a wide variety of establishments, both in the UK and abroad. These include:
| The pharmaceutical industry | Financial services |
| The utilities (gas, electricity, water) | Manufacturing |
| Software houses | The civil service |
| The armed forces and police | Research and consultancy |
| Retailing |
Within these companies the students' roles are many and varied. They might include such jobs as collecting and analysing data, mathematical and statistical modelling, programming (SAS, C++, etc.), risk analysis, project management, logistics, design and analysis of clinical data, to name but a few. The variety and depth of experience is determined by the employer, as is the degree of supervision they provide.
So what are the benefits for the employer? Many employers come
back to us year after year to recruit our students. They often
see the placement year as an extended interview and, if a student
is found to be suitable, may offer her a permanent job on
graduation. In addition, they hope that the student will bring
fresh ideas. For small companies in particular, short term
contracts such as these offer a great deal of flexibility. The
fact that the rate of pay for a placement student is generally
lower than the graduate equivalent is an added inducement. For
the student, however, earning a salary instead of living off a
grant is riches indeed. Many take this opportunity to try to
become solvent!
Placing the students in suitable employment is the job of the placement unit, a team of academics and administrators with special responsibility in this area. In addition they, with the help of other academic members of staff, supervise and support students during their placement year. This involves at least two visits to the student's workplace to meet with both the student and her line manager, once early in the placement year and again towards the end.
With increasing competition for employment, we have found it
advantageous to spend time and effort in preparing the students
for placement. During their first year in college they will have
learnt the rudiments of CV writing and this is followed up early
in the second year by further work on CV's and interview
technique. The process of applying for, and getting, a placement
is ongoing throughout the second year. The effort invested in
this process has to date paid off, with all students finding a
placement. However, we are not complacent. Although most
companies come back each year for placement students, the
increase in numbers of students and the desire to widen the
student experience mean that we are constantly seeking new
placements. So, if you think that you could offer one of our
enthusiastic and able students a placement with your company give
us a ring on 0114 2533149 and we will do our best to help you.
Being interviewed for the Government Statistical Service Andrew Ledger (National Heritage)
The best kept secret Richard Castle (University of Brighton)
The Teaching Company Scheme (TCS) seems to be one of the best kept secrets. Outside university engineering departments, few academics have heard of it or appreciate the benefits and opportunities it offers; yet it has been in existence for 20 years.
The TCS is a Government-sponsored scheme which actively encourages partnerships between universities and businesses which will strengthen the competitiveness and wealth creation in the UK. The scheme works by supporting two year projects designed to realise a company's aims. Traditionally, many of the projects have been based on engineering problems, but the scheme is not limited to such projects. There are many oportunities for statisticians to be involved in projects such as quality assurance or pattern recognition.
A company must identify a development which is strategically important to their future, which requires skills that are currently unavailable within the company. They would then contact a university department which can offer the necessary skills. Together they would draw up and submit a proposal to the Government. Successful applicants can then appoint a high calibre graduate (teaching company associate) to work full time in the company who will be supervised by industrialists within the company and academics. An initial two-year scheme is funded through a budget worth £65000 for each associate employed. Small companies attract 70% funding from the Government, leaving the company to find pay the remainder (less than £10000 per year). The funding includes monies to pay for the skills of an academic on a consultancy basis (25 days per year).
The scheme is generally considered an advantage to all the parties involved. Naturally, the company acquire new skills at a greatly subsidised rate. The associate benefits from working on a high profile project, and has a special training allowance included in the budget. Furthermore many associates progress within the company after the project has ended. The academic benefits by learning to apply his skills on real and original projects. The Government considers the TCS a success because it generally leads to increased profits and often to increased employment.
At present, I am the academic supervisor for a Teaching Company project at Drallim Industries in Bexhill. The company is developing an instrument for monitoring pneumatic machinery which can predict machine wear before there is catastrophic failure. Naturally, this instrument generates large amounts of data, and pattern recognition techniques are used to monitor the machinery. This requires both mathematical and statistical skills which, prior to the TCS, the company did not have in-house. The Teaching Company scheme is proving an excellent means for acquiring the necessary skills.
To make you think. Peter Holmes (MEANS Project)
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Some
comments from employers and employees
Planning, design of experiments and correctly interpreting data are important skills.
Employees need to know how to use statistics in improving quality.
They need to be able to communicate with non-statisticians.
The need an appreciation of how research, scientific and in statistical methods, is done.
They need a good perspective on the interplay between data and model.
Statisticians need to work together in teams.
Here are some comments from employees.
These employees come from the same companies as the employers quoted above.
The undergraduate course should give students problems to solve and fit in a real environment.
I needed to learn how to communicate "This is what statistics can do for you".
Exams are too much on regurgitation. We must assess "Can they do it?".
There was no consideration of ill-defined problems or development of listening skills.
I needed help to learn how to think round a problem.
' A good sound theoretical background is important.
I would have found it helpful to have been exposed to practical problems.